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Poster: Mandojammer Date: November 02, 2010 07:26:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Election Day U.S.A 2010 non-partisan

Well spoken micah.

My fear is that the "fragile experiment in self governance" is at a critical juncture. (And before Rob mugs me in the alley, I understand that 'critical' is an element of the temporal definition of 'juncture' - so apologies for being redundant, repetitive and saying things more times than needed)

We are faced with a staggering, crippling debt load (that cannot be paid off), a failed capitalistic market economy - enabled by those charged with executing our "self governance" who have sold their souls to special interests, absolutely no concept of a responsible, renewable alternative energy program, dwindling natural resources worldwide, a growing ideaology of (unjustified) entitlement and an erosion of personal accountability.

Where do we go from here and are there enough of us to ensure we start heading in "that" direction?

~ Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost. ~

John Quincy Adams


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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: November 02, 2010 10:07:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Election Day U.S.A 2010 non-partisan

Fear not that alley, Namor. Given that you probably know 217 ways to kill me (and only one of them swift and painless) I'm staying well out of it. If everyone avoided being 'redundant, repetitive and saying things more times than needed' there'd be a hell of a lot fewer posts around here.

The thing I find about elections is that, no matter how things turn out, the guy you thought you voted for doesn't quite turn out to be the guy who got in.


"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard."
H. L. Mencken

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: November 02, 2010 11:02:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Election Day U.S.A 2010 non-partisan

"If everyone avoided being 'redundant, repetitive and saying things more times than needed' there'd be a hell of a lot fewer posts around here."

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: November 02, 2010 11:08:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Election Day U.S.A 2010 non-partisan

Oh, subtle...

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: November 02, 2010 11:20:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Election Day U.S.A 2010 non-partisan

sorry couldn't resist

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: November 02, 2010 12:05:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Election Day U.S.A 2010 non-partisan

Well, resistance is futile after all.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: November 02, 2010 12:46:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Election Day U.S.A 2010 non-partisan

Jean Luc bested the Borg twice I believe ( I am not a Trekie ). Once when he became human again after being Locutus of Borg and the other was the Borg Queen thingy . See resistance is not always futile . And it must be true if it is on T.V.

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Poster: rastamon Date: November 02, 2010 01:00:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Election Day U.S.A 2010 non-partisan

I LOVE Jean-Luc's Enigmatic Ocean CD - outstanding violinist

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: November 02, 2010 01:16:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Election Day U.S.A 2010 non-partisan

Funny how he never had a fiddle on the Enterprise...

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Poster: bluedevil Date: November 02, 2010 01:27:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Election Day U.S.A 2010 non-partisan

King Kong!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p6yUvQBXSY&;feature=related

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: November 02, 2010 01:50:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Election Day U.S.A 2010 non-partisan

Very nice, though somewhat lacking in fiddling. Now, I may be embarrassed by the answer, but who was the bozo with the tambourine?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: November 02, 2010 01:56:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Election Day U.S.A 2010 non-partisan

Funny, because Ponty is famous for playing King Kong with Zappa but not in band on that clip. Didn't realize until played all the way through.

On tambourine, MOTORHEAD SHERWOOD.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euclid_James_Sherwood

Frank with Jean Luc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXkkcr7ABjo

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: November 02, 2010 03:17:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Election Day U.S.A 2010 non-partisan

Yes indeed, I was right in thinking I'd be embarrassed. Euclid was a mainstay of the classic Zappa line up.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: November 03, 2010 09:30:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Election Day U.S.A 2010 non-partisan

and Ponty is the ONLY musician that Zappa has said he despised and would never work with again. Wonder why? I do like his music though

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Poster: bluedevil Date: November 03, 2010 10:43:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Election Day U.S.A 2010 non-partisan

Don't know - was it maybe because McLaughlin poached him for Mahavishnu right after he rejoined the Mothers? Maybe left Frank high and dry on the eve of a tour or something? Would have to ask a more knowledgable Zappa fan than I, but I do know from all I've heard that Frank could carry a grudge and develop the same unreasonably (not that I have any true knowledge on that point).

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: November 02, 2010 07:40:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Election Day U.S.A 2010 non-partisan

Enigmatic Ocean!!!!! Wasn't Egocentric Molecules on that LP? I could Google it but I'm feeling lazy.

Thanks for the flashback to junior year in high school, making out on Rehoboth Beach with B..., oh never mind.

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Poster: rastamon Date: November 12, 2010 11:04:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Election Day U.S.A 2010 non-partisan

this years crop is the SHIT!! Yes on 19 passed by 55% in Alameda County, does that count?
btw, thanks! I never heard the Zappa/Jean Luc...very enigmatic in a mandonian way.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: November 02, 2010 01:11:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Election Day U.S.A 2010 non-partisan

"I am not a Trekie'

The evidence would appear to make it so...

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Poster: William Tell Date: November 02, 2010 01:04:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Election Day U.S.A 2010 non-partisan

Yeah, but I knew he was talking about me...if I am anything, it's redundant. Comes from teaching, methinks: best lecture plan is to tell them what you are going to tell them, tell them what you want to tell them, then remind them of what you told them, all within 41 minutes or less.

Notice I how many times I inserted "Tell" in the above? Is that a subtle marketing ploy or what?

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: November 02, 2010 01:10:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Election Day U.S.A 2010 non-partisan

I use the same teaching techniques. I think i repeated the take home points 4 times during a 90 minute lecture yesterday.

As for your marketing ploy, i am sure that you didn't really mean it and you were just lucky that it worked out that way and there is no way anyone could possibly use what you did as a model. Sorry but if you want to become a PM around here you have to elbow your way to the top.

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Poster: William Tell Date: November 02, 2010 03:15:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Election Day U.S.A 2010 non-partisan

Hmmm, and I was thinking it was the "suck up" model, another of my many tactical approaches. In reality, it might have just been the "overwhelm them with crap" model, which seems to be the pt of the 13 messages on my phone right now--shouldn't they have stopped by now? Oh, yeah--I think these are old ones...

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Poster: ringolevio Date: November 02, 2010 06:25:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Election Day U.S.A 2010 non-partisan

I caught the elbow joke, just in case you were wondering if anyone did.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: November 02, 2010 07:22:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Election Day U.S.A 2010 non-partisan

Thanks. I just figured it that people noticed it but it was not that funny. I thought it was funny.

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