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Poster:	k-otic	Date:	October 23, 2010 02:15:05am
Forum:	feature_films	Subject:	The next 30 Items in question

Firstly... thank you for doing this ... and sorry for not sorting the titles by release date .. i`m a bit in a weekend hurry :)

Eight Witnesses (TV 1954)
Flame Over India (1959)
Gone to Earth (1950)
I Killed That Man (1941)
Kiss Daddy Good Night (1987)
Las Vegas Shakedown (1955)
Letter from an Unknown Woman (1948)
Look Back in Anger (1959)
Mr. Arkadin (1955)
My Boys Are Good Boys (1978)
New Mexico (1951)
Night and the City (1950)
No Orchids for Miss Blandish (1948)
Postmark for Danger (1955)
Shack Out on 101 (1955)
Show Them No Mercy! (1935)
Sons of Steel (1934)
Southside 1-1000 (1950)
Streets of New York (1939)
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
The 300 Year Weekend (1971)
The Big Boodle (1957)
The Bitter Tea of General Yen (1933)
The Damned Don't Cry (1950)
The Entertainer (1960)
The Fallen Idol (1948)
The Girl in Lovers Lane (1960)
The Good Die Young (1954)
The Mafu Cage (1978)
The Penal Code (1932)

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Poster:	billbarstad	Date:	October 23, 2010 07:23:54am
Forum:	feature_films	Subject:	Re: The next 30 Items in question

Eight Witnesses (1954) - No renewal found. Not GATT eligible.
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Flame Over India (1959) - No film renewal - No GATT notice - Screenplay?

Type of Work: Recorded Document
Document Number: V2469P447
Date of Recordation: 1989-06-19
Entire Copyright Document: V2469P447 (Single page document)
Date of Execution: 1Jun89
Title: Flame over India : a.k.a. North West frontier; motion picture / Screenplay by Robin Estridge, adapted from a screenplay entitled Jehad by Frank Nugent. Based on a screenplay entitled North West frontier and/or The Star of India by Robert Westerby & Will Price & on an original story by Patrick Ford & Will Price.
Notes: Option agreement.
Flame over India & 4 other titles.
Party 1: Pinewood Studios, Ltd.
Party 2: Price Entertainment, Inc.

Variant title: North West frontier
Jehad
Star of India
Names: Pinewood Studios, Ltd.
Price Entertainment, Inc.
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Gone to Earth (1950) - Renewed

Type of Work: Motion Picture
Registration Number / Date: RE0000019337 / 1979-05-07
Renewal registration for: LP0000001764 / 1951-12-31
Title: The Wild heart; motion picture. By Vanguard Films, Inc.
Notes: From the novel Gone to earth, by Mary Webb.
Copyright Claimant: American Broadcasting Companies, Inc. (PWH)

Variant title: The Wild heart
Other Title: Gone to earth
Names: Webb, Mary
Vanguard Films, Inc.
American Broadcasting Companies, Inc.
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Las Vegas Shakedown (1955) - Renewed

Type of Work: Recorded Document
Document Number: V2160P260
Date of Recordation: 1986-02-12
Entire Copyright Document: V2160P260-264
Registration Number Not Verified: RE 165-279 (1983)
Title: Las Vegas shakedown / RE 165-279 (1983)

Type of Work: Recorded Document
Document Number: V2160P255
Date of Recordation: 1986-02-12
Entire Copyright Document: V2160P255-259
Registration Number Not Verified: RE 165-279 (1983)
Title: Las Vegas shakedown / RE 165-279 (1983)
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Look Back in Anger (1959) - Renewed

Type of Work: Motion Picture
Registration Number / Date: RE0000314206 / 1986-12-19
Renewal registration for: LP0000017059 / 1959-09-26 (in notice: 1958)
Title: Look back in anger.
Copyright Claimant: Woodfall Film Productions, Ltd. (PWH)

Names: Woodfall Film Productions, Ltd.
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Mr. Arkadin (1955) - GATT restored

Type of Work: Motion Picture
Registration Number / Date: PA0000996147 / 2000-05-05
Application Title: Mr. Arkadin.
Title: Confidential report / Film Organization, SA in co-production with Sevilla Films Studios ; story, screenplay, direction by Orson Welles.
Description: Videocassette ; 1/2 in.
Notes: In b&w.
Copyright Claimant: Gray Film Sipirs, SA
Date of Publication: 1955
Authorship on Application: motion picture: Orson Welles, -1985.
Copyright Note: Reg. under GATT/URAA restoration

Other Title: Mister Arkadin
Dossier secret
Names: Welles, Orson, -1985
Film Organization, SA
Sevilla Films Studios
Gray Film Sipirs, SA
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New Mexico (1951) - No renewal found
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Night and the City (1950) - Renewed

Type of Work: Recorded Document
Document Number: V3293P241
Date of Recordation: 1996-10-11
Entire Copyright Document: V3293 P222-246
Registration Number Not Verified: RE 666-315.
Title: Night and the city (1950) By Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation / RE 666-315.

Variant title: Night and the city (1950)
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Postmark for Danger (1955) - Renewed?

Recorded Document
Document Number: V2348P316
Date of Recordation: 1988-05-17
Entire Copyright Document: V2348 P296-325
Registration Number Not Verified: LP6351 (1955)
Title: Postmark for danger / LP6351 (1955)
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Shack Out on 101 (1955) - Renewed

Type of Work: Motion Picture
Registration Number / Date: RE0000170789 / 1983-05-17
Renewal registration for: LP0000005600 / 1955-12-04
Title: Shack out on 101. By Allied Artists Pictures Corporation.
Copyright Claimant: National Telefilm Associates, Inc. (PWH)
Copyright Note: C.O. correspondence.

Variant title: Shack out on 101.
Names: Allied Artists Pictures Corporation.
National Telefilm Associates, Inc.
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Southside 1-1000 (1950) - No renewal found. May have been renewed before 1978.
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Sunset Boulevard (1950) - No renewal found. I'm sure this was renewed, likely in 1977.
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The Big Boodle (1957) - Renewed

Type of Work: Motion Picture
Registration Number / Date: RE0000201934 / 1984-03-05
Renewal registration for: LP0000008609 / 1957-01-25 (in notice: 1956)
Title: The Big boodle.
Copyright Claimant: Monteflor, Inc. (PWH)

Names: Monteflor, Inc.
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The Damned Don't Cry (1950) - No renewal found. May have been renewed before 1978.
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The Entertainer (1960) - No renewal found. Made in the UK, but I couldn't find a GATT notice.
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The Girl in Lovers Lane (1960) - No renewal found
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The Good Die Young (1954) - Renewed

Type of Work: Motion Picture
Registration Number / Date: RE0000128156 / 1982-04-12
Renewal registration for: LP0000008753 / 1954-03-02
Title: The Good die young. By Remus Films, Ltd.
Copyright Claimant: United Artists Corporation (PWH)

Variant title: The Good die young.
Names: Remus Films, Ltd.
United Artists Corporation


This post was modified by billbarstad on 2010-10-23 14:23:54

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Poster:	gzd	Date:	October 23, 2010 12:15:48pm
Forum:	feature_films	Subject:	Re: The next 30 Items in question

Actually, there's no renewal record per se for Postmark for Danger (1955). The only records that pop up are mass-lists of copyright assignments (document numbers that start with V instead of RE), and PD titles can and do pop up in such lists (try a search for "They made me a criminal" and "woman in green" for example)

Furthermore, there's even a registration by Alpha Video for a modified print with additional sound effects:
Type of Work: Motion Picture
Registration Number / Date: PA0001626240 / 2008-10-23
Application Title: Postmark For Danger.
Title: Postmark For Danger.
Description: Videodisc (DVD)
Copyright Claimant: Gotham Distributing Corp. d/b/a Alpha Video Distributors. Address: PO Box 101, Narberth, PA 19072.
Date of Creation: 2008
Date of Publication: 2008-09-30
Nation of First Publication: United States
Authorship on Application: Gotham Distributing Corp. d/b/a Alpha Video Distributors, employer for hire.
Pre-existing Material: Motion Picture Preexisting; Postmark For Danger - Directed By Guy Green.
Basis of Claim: New Matter: Ambient and Newly Created Sound Effects.
Copyright Note: C.O. correspondence.
Names: Alpha Video Distributors
Gotham Distributing Corp.

It's a UK movie to start with, although the executive producer, Tony Owen, was an American. The Alpha registration makes me suspect it's PD in the US, but I am not well-versed in GATT and UK copyright subtleties, so I'll let others draw the proper conclusions.

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Poster:	billbarstad	Date:	October 23, 2010 01:47:41pm
Forum:	feature_films	Subject:	Re: The next 30 Items in question

If executive producer Tony Owen was a copyright holder, and that seems likely, the movie wouldn't be GATT eligible. Since the original copyright term is 50 years, the movie would now be PD.

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Poster:	HektorT	Date:	October 26, 2010 02:22:36pm
Forum:	feature_films	Subject:	Re: The next 30 Items in question

Actually to NOT be eligible GATT, none of the copyright holders can be non-American. So even if one were british it would be GATT eligible. In any event the Copyright holders differ from country to country. In most cases it is Director, Screenwriter, music composer. I've never seen the Producer as a copyright holder. In this case the director is British, so it would be GATT eligible as long as it wasn't in the UK Public Domain in 1996

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Poster:	Moongleam	Date:	October 23, 2010 11:20:48am
Forum:	feature_films	Subject:	Re: The next 30 Items in question

Ordered by date:

The Penal Code (1932)
The Bitter Tea of General Yen (1933)
Sons of Steel (1934)
Show Them No Mercy! (1935)
Streets of New York (1939)
I Killed That Man (1941)
The Fallen Idol (1948)
Letter from an Unknown Woman (1948)
No Orchids for Miss Blandish (1948)
The Damned Don't Cry (1950)
Gone to Earth (1950)
Night and the City (1950)
Southside 1-1000 (1950)
Sunset Blvd. (aka Sunset Boulevard) (1950)
New Mexico (1951)
Eight Witnesses (TV) (1954)
The Good Die Young (1954)
Las Vegas Shakedown (1955)
Mr. Arkadin (1955)
Postmark for Danger (1955)
Shack Out on 101 (1955)
The Big Boodle (1957)
Flame Over India (1959)
Look Back in Anger (1959)
The Entertainer (1960)
The Girl in Lovers Lane (1960)
The 300 Year Weekend (1971)
The Mafu Cage (1978)
My Boys Are Good Boys (1978)
Kiss Daddy Good Night (1987)

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Poster:	Moongleam	Date:	October 23, 2010 11:20:48am
Forum:	feature_films	Subject:	Re: The next 30 Items in question

I KILLED THAT MAN is already here.

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Poster:	Moongleam	Date:	October 23, 2010 05:47:40pm
Forum:	feature_films	Subject:	Re: The next 30 Items in question

********************************
********************************
** THE PENAL CODE ** 1932 **
********************************
********************************

-------------- 1960-A.txt --------------
[No matches.]
-------------- 1960-B.txt --------------
[No matches.]
-------------- 1959-A.txt --------------
---- index_1959-A.txt
[No matches.]
-------------- 1959-B.txt --------------
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-------------- 1961-A.txt --------------
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-------------- 1961-B.txt --------------
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***********************************************
***********************************************
** THE BITTER TEA OF GENERAL YEN ** 1933 **
***********************************************
***********************************************

-------------- 1961-A.txt --------------
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-------------- 1961-B.txt --------------
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-------------- 1960-A.txt --------------
0.000
THE BITTER TEA OF GENERAL YEN, a photo-
play in nine reels by Columbia Pictures
Corp. (C) 15Dec32; LP3*86. Columbia
Pictures Corp. (PWH); l4Jan60; R250232.

-------------- 1960-B.txt --------------
[No matches.]
-------------- 1962-A.txt --------------
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-------------- 1962-B.txt --------------
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*******************************
*******************************
** SONS OF STEEL ** 1934 **
*******************************
*******************************

-------------- 1962-A.txt --------------
[No matches.]
-------------- 1962-B.txt --------------
[No matches.]
-------------- 1961-A.txt --------------
[No matches.]
-------------- 1961-B.txt --------------
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-------------- 1963-A.txt --------------
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-------------- 1963-B.txt --------------
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************************************
************************************
** SHOW THEM NO MERCY ** 1935 **
************************************
************************************

-------------- 1963-A.txt --------------
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-------------- 1963-B.txt --------------
0.000
SHOW THEM NO MERCY, a photoplay in
eight reels by Twentieth Century-Fox
Film Corp. (C) 6Dec35; L6O5O. Twen-
tieth Century-Fox Film Corp. (PWH);
I60et63; R324210.

-------------- 1962-A.txt --------------
[No matches.]
-------------- 1962-B.txt --------------
[No matches.]
-------------- 1964-A.txt --------------
[No matches.]
-------------- 1964-B.txt --------------
[No matches.]

*************************************
*************************************
** STREETS OF NEW YORK ** 1939 **
*************************************
*************************************

-------------- 1967-A.TXT --------------
[No matches.]
-------------- 1967-B.TXT --------------
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-------------- 1966-A.TXT --------------
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-------------- 1966-B.TXT --------------
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-------------- 1968-A.txt --------------
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-------------- 1968-B.txt --------------
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***********************************
***********************************
** I KILLED THAT MAN ** 1941 **
***********************************
***********************************

-------------- 1969-A.txt --------------
---- index_1969-A.txt
[No matches.]
-------------- 1969-B.txt --------------
---- index_1969-B.txt
[No matches.]
-------------- 1968-A.txt --------------
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-------------- 1968-B.txt --------------
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-------------- 1970-A.txt --------------
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-------------- 1970-B.txt --------------
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*********************************
*********************************
** THE FALLEN IDOL ** 1948 **
*********************************
*********************************

-------------- 1976-A.txt --------------
[No matches.]
-------------- 1976-B.txt --------------
[No matches.]
-------------- 1975-A.txt --------------
---- index_1975-A.txt
[No matches.]
-------------- 1975-B.txt --------------
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-------------- 1977-A.txt --------------
[No matches.]
-------------- 1977-B.txt --------------
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**********************************************
**********************************************
** LETTER FROM AN UNKNOWN WOMAN ** 1948 **
**********************************************
**********************************************

-------------- 1976-A.txt --------------
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-------------- 1976-B.txt --------------
0.000
B637924.
Letter from an unknown woman. By
Universal Pictures Coapany, Inc.
(c) 10Jun48; 1.191t. Rational Telefila
Associates, Inc. (PHH); 21???76;
R637924.

-------------- 1975-A.txt --------------
---- index_1975-A.txt
[No matches.]
-------------- 1975-B.txt --------------
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-------------- 1977-A.txt --------------
[No matches.]
-------------- 1977-B.txt --------------
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**********************************************
**********************************************
** NO ORCHIDS FOR MISS BLANDISH ** 1948 **
**********************************************
**********************************************

-------------- 1976-A.txt --------------
[No matches.]
-------------- 1976-B.txt --------------
[No matches.]
-------------- 1975-A.txt --------------
---- index_1975-A.txt
[No matches.]
-------------- 1975-B.txt --------------
[No matches.]
-------------- 1977-A.txt --------------
[No matches.]
-------------- 1977-B.txt --------------
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**************************************
**************************************
** THE DAMNED DON'T CRY ** 1950 **
**************************************
**************************************

-------------- 1977-A.txt --------------
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-------------- 1977-B.txt --------------
0.000
B666336.
The Damned don't cry. By Barner
Brothers Pictures. Inc. 0 3iiy50; LP 125.
Barner Brothers, Inc. (PBB); 10Jun77;
B666336.


*******************************
*******************************
** GONE TO EARTH ** 1950 **
*******************************
*******************************

-------------- 1977-A.txt --------------
[No matches.]
-------------- 1977-B.txt --------------
[No matches.]

************************************
************************************
** NIGHT AND THE CITY ** 1950 **
************************************
************************************

-------------- 1977-A.txt --------------
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-------------- 1977-B.txt --------------
0.000
B666315.
Night and the city. (c) SJuuSO; LP236.
Twentieth Century- Fox Fiia Corporation
(PHH); 5JU177; B666315.


**********************************
**********************************
** SOUTHSIDE 1-1000 ** 1950 **
**********************************
**********************************

-------------- 1977-A.txt --------------
[No matches.]
-------------- 1977-B.txt --------------
0.000
8677445.
Southside 1-1000. (c) 12Nov50; LP543.
Allied Artists Productions, lac. (PBH) ;
21NOV77: 8677445.


*****************************************************
*****************************************************
** SUNSET BLVD. (AKA SUNSET BOULEVARD) ** 1950 **
*****************************************************
*****************************************************

-------------- 1977-A.txt --------------
[No matches.]
-------------- 1977-B.txt --------------
0.000
8671460.
Sunset Boulevard. (c) 4tug50: LP260.
Paraaount Pictures Corporation (PBH);
93ep77; B671460.




Renewals found:

THE BITTER TEA OF GENERAL YEN, a photo-
play in nine reels by Columbia Pictures
Corp. (C) 15Dec32; LP3*86. Columbia
Pictures Corp. (PWH); l4Jan60; R250232.

SHOW THEM NO MERCY, a photoplay in
eight reels by Twentieth Century-Fox
Film Corp. (C) 6Dec35; L6O5O. Twen-
tieth Century-Fox Film Corp. (PWH);
I60et63; R324210.

B637924.
Letter from an unknown woman. By
Universal Pictures Coapany, Inc.
(c) 10Jun48; 1.191t. Rational Telefila
Associates, Inc. (PHH); 21???76;
R637924.

B666336.
The Damned don't cry. By Barner
Brothers Pictures. Inc. 0 3iiy50; LP 125.
Barner Brothers, Inc. (PBB); 10Jun77;
B666336.

B666315.
Night and the city. (c) SJuuSO; LP236.
Twentieth Century- Fox Fiia Corporation
(PHH); 5JU177; B666315.

8677445.
Southside 1-1000. (c) 12Nov50; LP543.
Allied Artists Productions, lac. (PBH) ;
21NOV77: 8677445.

8671460.
Sunset Boulevard. (c) 4tug50: LP260.
Paraaount Pictures Corporation (PBH);
93ep77; B671460.


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Summary
(If no renewal was found, the line begins with "-- no --".
Otherwise, the line begins with a number representing how
closely the title was matched; 0.00 means a perfect match,
and 0.18, for example, would indicate a poor match.)
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-- no -- THE PENAL CODE (1932)
0.00 THE BITTER TEA OF GENERAL YEN (1933)
-- no -- SONS OF STEEL (1934)
0.00 SHOW THEM NO MERCY (1935)
-- no -- STREETS OF NEW YORK (1939)
-- no -- I KILLED THAT MAN (1941)
-- no -- THE FALLEN IDOL (1948)
0.00 LETTER FROM AN UNKNOWN WOMAN (1948)
-- no -- NO ORCHIDS FOR MISS BLANDISH (1948)
0.00 THE DAMNED DON'T CRY (1950)
-- no -- GONE TO EARTH (1950) --- renewed in 1979 per billbarstad
0.00 NIGHT AND THE CITY (1950)
0.00 SOUTHSIDE 1-1000 (1950)
0.00 SUNSET BLVD. (AKA SUNSET BOULEVARD) (1950)

7 of 14 renewed. (50%)

(The copyright renewal register for the second half of 1961
was provided by Mystic550.)



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Poster:	Moongleam	Date:	October 23, 2010 11:47:06am
Forum:	feature_films	Subject:	Re: The next 30 Items in question

British films released after 1945 (for example, "The Fallen Idol" and "No Orchids for Miss Blandish") are probably still under copyright in the U.K.

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Poster:	k-otic	Date:	October 26, 2010 07:02:40am
Forum:	feature_films	Subject:	Re: The next 30 Items in question

Mmmhh, thanks again .. seems there isn´t much passing through after 1950